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Go Localing.com -help support Local business by listing user-generated Local Favorite things to do, see and eat
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Q1: How much is a database, forum going to cost for a site like this??
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by Shepp_invest
05.08.08 | 10:16 PMTo really make this take off and come up with a complete site your going to need upwards of 10k.
For Example some of what you will need is: interfaces for approving user submitted content, adjusting content on the static site yourself, account management, automated email notifications and newsletters to all the "locals" in one locale, a review and rating system, possibly even an automated system that authenticates that people actually live in the area, a "Verified Local" type of thing ( you can do this with online credit card verification systems, you don't actually have to collect money from anyone but you can verify their billing address and zip that way, to prove they are indeed in that area.) This cuts down on the frauds and commercialization that "Chaula" commented about.
I would recommend finding someone that will help you out with this almost like a hobby or bring them on as a partner. It's not a bad idea to bring someone on-board this early in the company who has the expertise you need (try to find someone local to you that …moreyou trust, also keep in mind that if you can't pay them your going to have to do one heck of a sales job and be prepared to explain your thoughts!). I have seen this business partner concept work very well for several startups in fact ( you don't have to give them 50% of your company to make them a partner, i suggest giving them 10-20%... and put it all in writing!)
If I were you, I would try to save my cold hard cash for advertising and spreading the word unless you currently have a niche to get the word out???
Also start thinking about how your going to set yourself apart from sites like citysearch (I personally find that one really ugly and hard to use.)
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by mfheadcase06.25.08 | 10:09 PMActually, i believe that there are free and open source tools for much of what you would need in the site interface.
Wiki software may be the easiest way to get started, find out if your web hosts provides it... and if so which wiki software
If not find out what flavor of hosting service your host is running on and if they provide a database back end, many do. then shop here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software
you should be able to find something free and under either a GPL or BSD liscense... this is most likely if you host is running a combination of MySQL and Apache...
Of course then there is the problem of finding someone who speaks PHP... but i hear that some find it worth the effort to go self taught to save the money over and above the cost savings of going with the free software to begin with. **grin**
The mapping part may or may not cost... but considering some of the frighteningly random things i have seen tied into Google maps... i suspect that you might be able to tie into them for…more free as well.
If you know where to shop... all you need is a coder and a good hosting plan... and if you have the time and confidence to learn, the coder can be optional.
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06.13.08 | 12:55 PMYour idea is promising and I think there is room in the marketplace for this type of site, especially if it is very well done. One way to distinguish yourself might be through the quality of the writing on the site. If you could attract wannabe travel writers or others with strong writing skills to contribute - either about their own experiences or by going out to local spots and interviewing locals, you might be more likely to develop a following. You may also think about tapping into the college market because so many college students go out-of-state for college and often move again after graduation.
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by mcgrawc06.12.08 | 10:32 PMYeah, there's also a footer that I'm gettin on the bottom of my emails, asking me to vote on my favorite city's nightlife and restaurants. Good luck!
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06.10.08 | 03:36 PMIts a really great idea! American express is attempting to do something similar to this. They pick a city and ask the people of the city about whats good for their in-flight magazine called 'American way'. But what you propose is way beyond what they have.
I agree with br1168 that it is difficult to break into the market. But at the same time, I am sure there is a huge international fleeting population that you could cater to.
Good luck!
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by edevlin06.06.08 | 11:36 AMI think this is a great idea. In addition to marketing to visitors to individual cities, maybe you could also market to people who recently relocated to the city. I know when I have moved around, I like to get travel guides to get acclimated to the city and things to do, but they are usually really touristy and focus on really expensive activities. Having a guide with a local persepective would be really useful and there would be so many relocation organizations and businesses you could disseminate the information through.
Good luck!
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06.01.08 | 08:07 PMYou described several technical features that will make your site different than hugely successful ventures in this arena like Yelp. But even with a good web developer at your side, you will face a much greater challenge... fighting the bigger brands that have already won customer loyalty. Like br1168 said, you need to define your niche further. That should help, but even still, there are hundreds (maybe thousands) of "go local" type concepts out there. Get Version 1 out there and begin developing that customer loyalty. And so you can start appearing in search engines whenever a specific restaurant is searched for -- the majority of visitors come to sites like these because of search engines. All the best to you!
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06.01.08 | 10:31 AMSounds Great! Maybe you could even have volunteers set up in each city, who have a passion and knowledge of particular things who a traveler can contact with specific questions if they are in a city and have a question! Good luck!
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by inventorspot
05.15.08 | 11:39 AMI think this would be very helpful to travelers, if you can do it right. But given the broad nature of what you are doing, you are talking years of effort or tons of money to buy the talent you need to do this.
I would suggest you start super small. Lock up an area, then go to the larger state, region etc. Starting broadly, you may be stretched too thin to accomplish much.
Michelle
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by golocaling05.13.08 | 08:37 PMYou're right, Yelp is somewhat similar. But there are reasons why I don't like Yelp. 1) it is very busy and cluttered, hard to read 2)they have a lot of junk listed like Domino's and KFC. It sometimes seems more like a yellow pages that quality suggestions.
Here is how golocaling would be different.
1) You will be able to search by map
2) Things will be listed first that have the most votes, so you see the best suggestions first.
3)Each city will have a summary about the city, it's personality, community, schools, great events, festivals, where people go for day trips, great hiking trails, etc..
4) A Local forum
I will not allow national chain restaurants to be listed unless it originated in that city.
I want this site to be a fast way for people to learn the ins and outs about a city. I know there are a lot of touristy websites out there, but I'm hoping the infomation that I receive from Locals will be very hard to find anywhere else and for that reason, people will continue to come back.
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by Listie05.13.08 | 04:01 PMGreat idea...but I think Yelp.com is already doing something similar? Not to discourage you, but just so you know what you could be up against...
Best of luck!
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by br116805.12.08 | 10:43 AMInteresting concept, but this is unfortunately an extremely difficult market to break into because so many other organizations have or are doing it. Having user generated content certainly helps, but you'll have to snag users from the local sites that are already in existence, a difficult thing to do when cities like Philly already have sites like GoPhila.com and CampusPhilly.com. You might want to try a link exchange bc quite honestly those other sites are usually funded from the city and have full time staff with million dollar budgets. You may be able to find a niche in smaller to mid sized cities that don't already have an established tourism site, but I think that taking on large cities is going to be an extremely uphill battle. One thing that you might want to add to the features you already have for your site is local blogs. www.BlogHarrisburg.com has successfully implemented an interesting model that may suit your website. Good luck.
Idea Description
The site is www.golocaling.com.
Ever been to a city and thought, "I wonder what the Locals would suggest?" Whether it's the favorite restaraunts, best hiking trails, parks, attractions, or unique shops. I want people to have a site where you can learn about a city fast and from people who know...the Locals. Suggestions will be ranked by popularity (voting). We will only list things that are unique to that city or region. It will also have quick links to city statistics like crime, jobs, real estate, wi-fi hot spots, local news and school ratings, community calendars etc...
What will you do if you win $10,000 for this idea?
I have created the website at www.golocaling.com, and have started collecting surveys from friends and family, but am putting them in manually now. I would use the money to help develop a user generated site, to add forums and have a voting system once I get many submissions for a city. The places with the most votes will be listed first in each category. Users will be able to search by map also. Once this site is set up correctly, it will not take long for this site to contain unique user generated content on cities of every size, for locals and tourists.




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Post a commentHi GoLocalling, It's been fun hanging out on the blob with you. Congrats on making it to the front page. That will be quite a nice laurel for your home page of the website! I really like your other ideas too. If you decide that you may be interested in potentially teaming up with film festivals in various cities, let me know. I know festival directors all over. Best of luck! Cindy
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Good idea - good luck
great idea. one suggestion for sources. my hometown paper The Tahlequah Daily Press, Tahlequah, OK has an annual "best of" in which local people vote on the best restarurant, best carpenter, etc, etc. so check out REAL LOCAL PAPERS - not the canned versions - that will add credibility to your work best of luck
Good luck! I hope you win.
I was thinking about the same thing! We can definately exchange links. our sites will totally be relevant.
This is a really cool idea! You and I seem to be thinking along the same lines. Check out my idea about localclasses.com. Also, you might want to talk to the owner of MyNeighborhood.com. You might be able to integrate your site with his somehow. I voted for your idea. Good luck.
I think this idea really has some legs to it.
What Craigslist strifed with advertisers. The whole point about any web site is to make money social or not. When a web site gets 5,000 or more unique visitors a month they would be foolish not to get advertisers. Most web surfers want information and are willing to pay for it and the advertisers know it. According to Alexa.com Craigslist strifed with advertisers is still pulling in lots of unique visitors
Yes I like this idea a lot too. I do see some potential challenges in regards to previous post about misuse of the site. If you have voting, like ideablob.com that would require unique email address, etc that might help. great idea.
Any suggestion that is submitted would be entered into the website, then people can vote (like ideablob) only once for a place. The places that have the most votes would be listed first. I'm hoping that would help eliminate that problem.
How do you avoid misuse of the site by businesses that may not be that great but get their friends to nominate them for your website? Avoiding the situation that Craigslist is in now - it was supposed to be about individuals but the site is rife with advertisers. Would you require a minimum number of recommendations for a business before you put it up on your website?
This would have been very helpful when I was traveling to several cities lately. Good luck! Great idea!
wow, great idea! I will watch the site, let me know if you need help for surveys!
I'll keep an eye on this site...great potential!
Golocaling-excellent source for really personal, local advice. Marcy Gagnon
Great idea!